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* My friend Mark just joined. He asked me after his safety tour what tools he would be able to use between then and his first round of training sessions. I realized I didn't know if we have a formal answer for this. I told him the things in the tool room are probably fair game, so are a few other things, and to talk to someone beyond that. | * My friend Mark just joined. He asked me after his safety tour what tools he would be able to use between then and his first round of training sessions. I realized I didn't know if we have a formal answer for this. I told him the things in the tool room are probably fair game, so are a few other things, and to talk to someone beyond that. | ||
Because I have been preaching wikis in general and the NF wiki in particular to him for years, he then made a wiki page [[So_You_Finished_Your_Safety_Orientation._Now_What | Because I have been preaching wikis in general and the NF wiki in particular to him for years, he then made a wiki page [[So_You_Finished_Your_Safety_Orientation._Now_What?]]. | ||
One of the things I would like to add is that, if a tool has no training session, you can ask the person listed as "trainer" or "knowledge keeper" and if they give you an intro, you are good to go. (But are they willing to do that?) Otherwise, if it has a SWP, you can use it if you read and follow the SWP. If a tool doesn't have a SWP, but its page on the wiki has a link to the manual, you can use the tool if you read the manual. And if there is no manual link, but you find a link to the manual and add it to the page then it becomes a page with a manual link and you can treat it so. | One of the things I would like to add is that, if a tool has no training session, you can ask the person listed as "trainer" or "knowledge keeper" and if they give you an intro, you are good to go. (But are they willing to do that?) Otherwise, if it has a SWP, you can use it if you read and follow the SWP. If a tool doesn't have a SWP, but its page on the wiki has a link to the manual, you can use the tool if you read the manual. And if there is no manual link, but you find a link to the manual and add it to the page then it becomes a page with a manual link and you can treat it so. | ||
Would that be reasonable? My initial take was yes, but as I look at the results of that query on | Would that be reasonable? My initial take was yes, but as I look at the results of that query on [[Tools_test]] I think we need to tweak this a little further. For example, just because someone finds a manual for the Fortus and adds the link we wouldn't want them to run that either. But we also don't want tools to be unattainable. | ||
* Posted on the #safetycommittee channel on Slack. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] ([[User talk:Ttenbergen|talk]]) 23:11, 2024 August 29 (CDT)}} | * Posted on the #safetycommittee channel on Slack. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] ([[User talk:Ttenbergen|talk]]) 23:11, 2024 August 29 (CDT)}} | ||
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intro=The following tools have no [[Training Sessions]] | intro=The following tools have no [[Training Sessions]], they may or may not have links to SWPs or a manual : | ||
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|join on=training_session.tools HOLDS tool._pageName | |join on=training_session.tools HOLDS tool._pageName | ||
|fields=tool._pageName=Tool, link_to_manual, SWP_link, knowledge_keepers, trainers | |fields=tool._pageName=Tool, link_to_manual, SWP_link, knowledge_keepers, trainers | ||
|order by=tool._pageName | |order by=tool._pageName | ||
|where=equipment_type='Tool' | |where=equipment_type='Tool' AND training_session._pageName is null <!--AND (link_to_manual > "" or SWP_link > "") --> | ||
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Latest revision as of 13:26, 2024 October 2
This could become a list of tools in So You Finished Your Safety Orientation. Now What? that members can use without taking part in one of the Training Sessions, but some more work is needed first.
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Because I have been preaching wikis in general and the NF wiki in particular to him for years, he then made a wiki page So_You_Finished_Your_Safety_Orientation._Now_What?. One of the things I would like to add is that, if a tool has no training session, you can ask the person listed as "trainer" or "knowledge keeper" and if they give you an intro, you are good to go. (But are they willing to do that?) Otherwise, if it has a SWP, you can use it if you read and follow the SWP. If a tool doesn't have a SWP, but its page on the wiki has a link to the manual, you can use the tool if you read the manual. And if there is no manual link, but you find a link to the manual and add it to the page then it becomes a page with a manual link and you can treat it so. Would that be reasonable? My initial take was yes, but as I look at the results of that query on Tools_test I think we need to tweak this a little further. For example, just because someone finds a manual for the Fortus and adds the link we wouldn't want them to run that either. But we also don't want tools to be unattainable.
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The following tools have no Training Sessions, they may or may not have links to SWPs or a manual :